Deluxe Ski Jump Forum

greex1 wrote:

Rajmek1233 wrote:greex

235 oberstdorf?? o.O

I think there is a possible jump max 230

I ask because in BM record is 215, and can jump 223

yes but thats according to the real lines

Jussi Koskela wrote: The first question is if the range of lines should be different in summer/winter modes. Different ranges might make it difficult to estimate how far you are jumping. Some hills are also missing the lines after HS in the plastic covering.

The second question is whether the real patterns should be replicated for each hill. The markings are not always as clear as they are currently in DSJ4 (e.g. Lahti), so it's a tradeoff between reality and clarity.

I am looking forward to hear more opinions on these.

I think you should use the original lines from all hills
Especially at lahti and kuusamo

Jussi Koskela wrote:

Jussi Koskela wrote: The first question is if the range of lines should be different in summer/winter modes. Different ranges might make it difficult to estimate how far you are jumping. Some hills are also missing the lines after HS in the plastic covering.

The second question is whether the real patterns should be replicated for each hill. The markings are not always as clear as they are currently in DSJ4 (e.g. Lahti), so it's a tradeoff between reality and clarity.

I am looking forward to hear more opinions on these.

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In my opinion lines should be different (summer/winter). Players know each hill well and it wouldn't disturb them.

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To my mind a scheme of lines on each hill should be like in real, but their clarity can be improved, let mi say: as if hill has been prepared for more important competition for example World Championships.

So, maybe correct range of lines in the next version and custom styles in the following. Custom styles requires a lot more work.

Pavlokox wrote:

Jussi Koskela wrote:

Jussi Koskela wrote: The first question is if the range of lines should be different in summer/winter modes. Different ranges might make it difficult to estimate how far you are jumping. Some hills are also missing the lines after HS in the plastic covering.

The second question is whether the real patterns should be replicated for each hill. The markings are not always as clear as they are currently in DSJ4 (e.g. Lahti), so it's a tradeoff between reality and clarity.

I am looking forward to hear more opinions on these.

Ad.1
In my opinion lines should be different (summer/winter). Players know each hill well and it wouldn't disturb them.

Ad.2
To my mind a scheme of lines on each hill should be like in real, but their clarity can be improved, let mi say: as if hill has been prepared for more important competition for example World Championships.

I agree with Pavlokox

Jussi Koskela wrote:So, maybe correct range of lines in the next version and custom styles in the following. Custom styles requires a lot more work.

What do you mean by "custom styles" ?

nanucha wrote:

Jussi Koskela wrote:So, maybe correct range of lines in the next version and custom styles in the following. Custom styles requires a lot more work.

What do you mean by "custom styles" ?

Customized (=real) style of lines for each hill.

Jussi Koskela wrote:

nanucha wrote:

Jussi Koskela wrote:So, maybe correct range of lines in the next version and custom styles in the following. Custom styles requires a lot more work.

What do you mean by "custom styles" ?

Customized (=real) style of lines for each hill.

It depends on how much work do you need to put in customizing the lines on each hill.
If it would talke a lot of time i think we could deal with the same lines at every hill

so... as I say

nanucha wrote:but...

as we see on real photo this lines are the same (the same lenght) but in dsj are getting longer......and longer...

Lillehammer, for example:

there are exactly the same length

Also in Gapa:


In Villach are also the same:



Lahti? This is strange:


Kusamo is geious, this color :


Zakopane:



In Sapporo they are so longer and longer:

well I dont really care for summer that much, but in future versions correct lines for winter hills would be awesome

bulwa11 wrote:well I dont really care for summer that much, but in future versions correct lines for winter hills would be awesome

How do you define what is "correct"? After all, the lines can be laid different way for each competition.

Jussi Koskela wrote:

bulwa11 wrote:well I dont really care for summer that much, but in future versions correct lines for winter hills would be awesome

How do you define what is "correct"? After all, the lines can be laid different way for each competition.

I think is talking about lines after HS in winter, just like here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvrcv1jf ... AAAAAAAQAA

correct as in "like in real life" during world cup competitions. Although when I think about it its pretty similar in all hills: full lines / short lines until the K point. Then a red line on a K point and on the HS point and two lines connecting the K and HS lines. And a few short lines after the HS point. The differences are small on different hills but I as a detail kind of guy notice those
It be pretty cool to have custom lines for different hills but it shouldn't be on top of the list. But in some future version - yes

Wouldn't it be possible to make a "lines editor"? Then we could do just what we want. And i agree, custom lines for every hill - that's an awesome idea. What about deleting red K and HS marks in training mode?? Just leave the lines in the interval of 10 meters like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icI9VHGcs68